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Q & A:
Hubbardsville Native Geoff Kraly Talks About His
Musical Life
Q. Name, age and where you live?
A. My name is Geoff Kraly. I’m 26. I live in Brooklyn, NY. My co-
bandleader is Benjamin Scheuer. Ben is 25. He lives in Greenwich
Village in New York City. He and I make up the band Lady
Clown. We have a new record called
First Lady Clown. We’re
releasing the album in April, and are putting on a CD release
show on April 11at 8:30p.m. at Arlene’s Grocery in New York
City. Our Myspace page is
www.myspace.com/firstladyclown
Come be our friend on My Space!
Q. Education?
A. I grew up in Hubbardsville and went to Hamilton Central
School. I then attended Northwestern University where I was
the first graduate of their fledgling Music Cognition program.

It was a very good experience as that course of study was
essentially interdisciplinary. I was able to take Psychology classes,
Cognitive Science classes, Linguistics, in addition to the core
music classes. Meanwhile I was diving into the music scene in
Chicago, playing with great musicians, and studying with Steve
Rodby.
Q. When and how did you begin your involvement with
music?
A. My first involvement with music was listening to a Jackson
Browne song, “Tender Is The Night”, repeatedly on my dad’s
headphones. I was probably 4 years old. I don’t think I’ve heard
that song since then, to be honest! It would be fun to hear it
again. I started playing piano at some young age. I then moved
onto trumpet.

Piano and trumpet fell by the wayside, and when I was 12 I
picked up bass guitar. That is what I play now, 14 years later.
Being exposed to different types of music and having the simple
experience of making a note on an instrument of any sort was
invaluable when I was growing up.

And I had great teachers in Hamilton, pianist Kerry Koen and
guitarist Ed Vollmer.
Q. Who has influenced your musical style and your
writing?
A. The most direct influence on my musical style is the musicians
that I play with and the people I am surrounded by.

One of my favorite things about living and playing in New York
City is the great feeling of community among musicians, artists,
and fans. More and more I feel like part of a growing family, and
this at the same time shrinks the hugeness of New York City and
expands your own world so that you feel like your music is not
just for yourself and your bandmates, but for anyone who wants
it to be theirs.

More specifically, I’m incredibly lucky to be able to work with
people as talented as Ben Scheuer, whose skills stretch beyond
writing rock tunes, singing, and playing guitar into writing for
musical theatre and producing and recording other artists in his
studio, 875 Studios. In fact, we recorded the entire Lady Clown
album, “First Lady Clown”, at Ben’s studio with the help of
veteran producer Peter Denenberg. Peter had worked with the
Spin Doctors, David Bowie, Martin Sexton and many others.

Josh Dion joined us on drums. Josh is an amazing talent and a
truly great person. He plays with Lady Clown in our live shows.
A great guitarist, Dan Hindman, also joins us on stage for live
shows.

These guys do a great job of helping Ben and me retain the
precise detail of the tunes as they were recorded on the CD
while creating a show that is powerful and, of course, rocks. We’
re very excited for the CD release show on April 11.
Q. What was the first band you were in? What was it
like? What sort of music did you play? Who else was in it?
A. The first band that I was in was a band with my older
brother, Jim Kraly, on drums, with Shannon Bauman, Corey
Bauman, and Chris Joyce. I was 13, and most of the other guys
were a few years older. My bass was probably taller than me at
that point.

We played Hamilton High School dances, graduation parties, and
eventually at bars and even at Fireworks Over Central New
York, opening for Gov’t Mule, Little Feat, and others. We played
mostly classic rock covers — Beatles, Elvis, Janis Joplin, Jimi
Hendrix. Some of the best training I’ve ever received was when I
had to learn about 50 songs in just a few weeks when I joined
Static.

I hadn’t been playing bass for very long, and Static already had a
large catalogue of music, and gigs in the books. I had to jump on
board and pick things up quick! It was on-the-job training that
has resulted in skills that I use every single day as a freelancing
bass player. I learned how to organize the pieces of a song in my
mind so that it can be memorized after hearing it just once.
Maybe twice.

Working in Central New York with pianist Rick Montalbano
provided even more training of this nature, as he would often
ask me if I knew a jazz tune, I’d say “No”, and then he would say
“Okay” and he’d start playing it and I’d have to learn it on the
gig! I now see the value in that experience.
Q. When and how did you know that you wanted to
pursue being a full time musician? What was the process
like to arrive at that decision?
A. I don’t know that I ever made the decision to become a full
time musician—that wasn’t really a choice to me. It was, and still
is, a given that I’d be making music for the rest of my life. I knew
the day that my parents bought me my first bass that I would be
playing it constantly! That’s not to say that I had any thoughts of
a career in music. My vision (for lack of a better word) of how I’
d like my career to go transforms over time.

Right now, I’m very excited to have this Lady Clown project.
Working with Ben has been very educational and rewarding for
both of us. We love being in the studio for hours. We love
writing tunes. We love editing each other’s tunes. We love
writing songs together. It’s fun for us and rarely feels like work.
And, when it does feel like work, we love that too.

“First Lady Clown” documents a year of Ben and me writing and
recording together. You can also hear a lot of sound designing
and production that I did with a bass and an assortment of
effects and other devices, recorded on my laptop at my
apartment in Brooklyn. That process is something very dear to
me also—hours and hours of noise making that results in the
tiniest details in the recordings, some of which aren’t even
supposed to be heard!
Lady Clown: Ben Scheuer and Hamilton native Geoff Kraly
Cover Art: The CD cover for First Lady
Clown, the band's first release to be
unveiled April 11.
HCS Grad Now Living in
Brooklyn Has CD Debuting April 11
Q. What has your career been like since
becoming a full time musician? What sort
of engagements have you worked? Who
have you played with? What sorts of clubs
(if any) are you working in?
A. I’ve been lucky to play around New York at
some great clubs: The now closed CBGB’s, The
Knitting Factory, The 55bar, Arlene’s Grocery,
Rockwood Music Hall, The Bitter End, to name a
few.

Often I play at these venues as a sideman with
another artist. That is something I love to do. I
can still feel artistically creative playing someone
else’s music. Two more recent projects I’ve been
playing with are Stellar Moss and a collective
group called The Narwhals.

Sometimes there is a nice balance between being
a sideman and running my own band. I’m
probably at my most focused and mentally stable
when I have that balance!
Q. You have a new CD coming out with
your current band, Lady Clown. First,
explain the group's name and then describe
the music on the CD. How much of it did
you write? What was that process like?
A. The origin of the band name “Lady Clown”
can be discovered in one of the tracks on the
new CD! The name implies darkness just as easily
as it implies humor. It can imply femininity as well
as masculinity. Those two words together put
something out there to have an effect on you,
but they also invite your own unavoidable
emotional reaction—which is yours and we have
no control over.

That certainly extends into the music on the CD.
The writing process requires that the composer
take a long look at him or herself and present
what they see in one form or another. You
might not always like what you see, but it’s your
job as an artist to offer it up to everyone—not
to judge it and lock it away. The result is music
that might put a mirror in the face of the
listener, or maybe it will make you think about
those around you and what they mean to you. I
hope that the music on “First Lady Clown” does
that.

The music is supposed to be fun too, and thus
one of the challenges of being a songwriter!
Fortunately, Ben and I relish this challenge. It
drives us nuts, but it’s so much fun. I think that
our love of the writing and recording process
comes across in the album. We did most of the
writing individually, but each tune that we’d bring
in the other would shred apart and offer helpful
advice. We’d take our tunes back home, re-draft
them and repeat that process, often for months.
At some point you have a finished tune.

We wrote two tunes together on this album,
“India”, and the first track, “Ranana”. Writing
together is a unique process, and often involves
combining pieces of unfinished material that we
each have lying around, as was the case with
“India”. “Ranana” is a tune that Ben brought in in
a complete structure, which I finished the lyric
to. Every tune has its own life and way of
developing.
Q. Talk a bit about playing with
singer/songwriter Cheryl Englehardt.
A. One of the great things about being a
freelancing musician in New York is that I get to
play with so many different songwriters, including
Cheryl. Cheryl always put together a great band.
Playing with her band I’ve played with some great
musicians like Shawn Pelton, Oscar Rodriguez,
Mike Calabrese, and also with Josh Dion, who
plays with Lady Clown.

Playing with another artist offers a different set
off challenges than playing your own music. You
have to tune in to their musical values and goals.
At the same time, regardless of whose project it
is, my job is to lift up the music. Freelancing is
actually how I met Ben, too. He needed a bass
player for an album he was making. A mutual
friend, Aaron Kotler, recommended me to Ben.
We somehow became friends and here we are
with a new record.
Q. Finally, what are your 10 favorite songs
on your iPod, or that you listen to the most?
A. I’m not sure I could pick my 10 favorite tunes,
so here are the last 10 that I listened to:

1. Jealous Guy – John Lennon
2. Jealous Guy – Joe Cocker (it’s a great tune!)
3. High Water – Bob Dylan
4. Tears of Rage – The Band
5. Zero-Sum -- Nine Inch Nails
6. Wales Visitation – Allen Ginsberg, The Voice
of The Poet Series
7. The Long Black Veil – Johnny Cash
8. Pincushion – ZZ Top
9. Dinosaur – King Crimson
10. Take This Heart Of Mine – Marvin Gaye

Posted: 2008.3.5